Yes, Peterson has a self authoring course, but not the ‘framing’, and I think Massimo puts books out on the framing but not a course.

Effectively speaking stocism is a scientific religion. Or rather a religious and philosophical system that does not conflict with science.

In my understanding, we are trying to (by accident) recreate the stoic philosophy (religion).

It was quite a while before I understood that’s what I was doing. I think Massimo is doing it intentionally. I haven’t got to peterson yet to ask if he’s knowingly doing it.

I have reasons to prefer peterson’s method. My only question is whether or not he should use biblical stories or not. And my preference is ‘no’, because I want to kill abrahamism (sophism) while at the same time preserve literary analogy (wisdom literature)